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美国密歇根州州长接受CGTN专访:中美贸易战对谁都没有好处 王莘之子:《歌唱祖国》是怎样诞生的

2019-12-25

  中国与美国能友好合作这对全世界来说都是利好能给每个人都传递出积极的信号。

  主持人: Where does the China-Michigan commercial relationship stand right now? Which Chinese provinces are in Michigan, which Chinese businesses, which sectors are they investing in Michigan, and which areas do you think are ripe for more growth in your state?

  中国各省与密歇根州之间的商业关系现在达到一个什么程度?中国企业在您的州投资的主要是哪些领域?哪些领域更有投资潜力?

  州长: One of the most important things in the world is what’s becoming the mobility industry. It’s really the automotive industry combining with the IT industry. Sort of merging together about autonomous and connected vehicles, it’s about electric system versus internal combustion. So that area is huge. And, we’re seeing investment from all over China in Michigan and involvement there.

  这个世界上最重要的事情是什么成为了移动产业。那么我认为是汽车产业与IT产业的结合。像自动驾驶与车联网诸如此类的结合主要是有关电力系统与内燃机技术。这是一个非常广阔的领域。我们在密歇根见到来自中国各地的投资。

  主持人:Governor, are you concerned a little bit, that for this mission compared to your past missions given where US-China trade tensions stand right now…and of course, there might be some room for further escalation on this front as well?

  州长如你所见与你上次来华不同的是近期中美之间的贸易紧张局势并且还有进一步升级的空间你是否担忧?

  州长:Yeah, there is a real concern. And that’s something that I hope doesn’t escalate. We’ve had great relations, we’ve seen a lot of success with China in terms of both sides winning. In terms of people having job opportunities they didn’t have before. And I think we need to encourage more trade rather than less. So I hope we work through this as effectively as possible and I hear it from Chinese companies, but I can tell you, I hear it from American companies also concerned about how do we keep this in terms of if we have issues to address, let’s get them addressed, let’s get behind this and let’s do more business together.

  是的我很担忧。并且我也希望目前的紧张局势不要进一步升级。我们过去有着良好的关系合作也取得了双赢的成果更是创造了前所未有的工作机位。我们应该鼓励更多的贸易往来而不是更少的。我希望这一问题能尽可能有效地解决从很多中国企业那里我听到了这样的呼声很多美国企业也很关心这一问题有关如何保持合作关系假如中美双方有问题需要解决那么我们将它好好解决然后进行更多的商业合作。

  主持人:What about investment then Governor, because it seems like Chinese investment heading into the United States right now, it’s facing more of a hostile attitude environment compared to the past few years. Where does Michigan stand on Chinese investment?

  那么谈及投资领域我们观察到美国对中国投资美国的态度相对于过去几年变得更加敌对。密歇根州是如何看待中国投资?

  州长:We welcome it. And in fact, we’re encouraging it. We’ve continued to see a lot of Chinese businesses come into Michigan. I’m excited to see that happen. We’re having success stories all the time. GAC just announced a research and development center in Michigan. Other companies are lining up to come and I’ve got a whole list of different meetings I’m doing on my trip here to say you’re welcome, come to Michigan.

  我们欢迎中国投资。事实上我们十分鼓励。我们也持续看到许多中国企业进入到密歇根州。对此我感到十分兴奋。我们一直看到许多成功的案例。广汽集团刚在密歇根州投资新建了研发机构。其他的中国企业也正排着队到来我手中有一长串的会面计划。此行我就是来告诉你们欢迎你们欢迎来密歇根州。

  主持人:Washington right now is thinking about imposing tariffs on some 200 billion dollars worth of Chinese goods. And if that does happen, that’s really going to hurt small businesses this time around and small businesses are so crucial to the American economy. What’s your take on this issue?

  特朗普政府正在考虑对2000亿美元的中国商品征收关税。小型企业对美国经济至关重要此举将更加伤害小型企业。您对这个问题有什么看法?

  州长:It is a concern. That’s where we need to work through these issues. Because it’s not just small business, it raises prices to our consumers. So we need to be thoughtful about that. Again, I think there is still things to improve in terms of trade relations and intellectual property…but, let’s not get in a trade war, let’s not create an adverse environment if we can help it because, again that only hurts everyone versus saying we have proactive trade…that’s the right answer because I view it as it helps the whole world when China and Michigan, or China and America can work well together it sends a good message to everyone.

  这是个大家都关心的问题也是我们需要努力解决的问题。这不仅事关小企业这会使我们的消费者面临更高的价格。我们需要考虑得更加周全。虽然我认为在贸易关系与知识产权领域还有一些需要改进的地方。但我不希望贸易战的发生我们不应该构建一个敌对的氛围因为贸易战相较于积极贸易活动来说只会伤害所有人。我认为这才是正确的答案假如中国与密歇根州或者中国与美国能友好合作这对全世界来说都是利好能给每个人都传递出积极的信号。

  主持人:And speaking of the domestic market, China will be hosting its first International Import Expo this November. This is going to be huge, it’s a mega platform connecting Chinese buyers with sellers from all around the world. How big of an opportunity do you think this is specifically to gain more market share here in China?

  谈及中国国内市场今年11月中国将举办首届国际进口博览会。它将成为连接中国买家与世界各地产品的大型平台。美国公司应该如何利用这个平台在中国市场增加份额?

  州长:I think it’s a good opportunity. It’s a way to build relations. I always tell people…people always underestimate, it’s hard to do business in another country, just anywhere. I’m an old business person, I’ve actually done that. And if you can create an environment to facilitate that to make you feel welcomed, to say here’s ways you can do it faster, better, easier, that encourages more of this work to get done, which I think is again a very much positive…because I view this as about long term relationships.

  我认为这是一次很好的机遇。这是一个很好的构建关系的方式。我总是告诉他人人们却总是低估这一点。在另一个国家做生意很难无论在哪儿。我是一个传统商人而我确实在这点上做成功了。假如你可以构建一个环境并且使得自我能够被欢迎那么由此你可以做得更快、更好、更轻松拓展更多的业务这是非常积极的方式并且我着眼于构建长期合作关系。

  主持人:So Governor, what is your hope then for the China-US economic relationship going forward? How do the two countries manage their differences but also grow mutually as well?

  您希望中美经济关系将如何发展?两国如何能最好地管理分歧并努力实现共同发展?

  州长:Michigan is a great illustration of that. Michigan didn’t have much of a relationship with China until I became Governor. Now after eight years, we’re actually number three in terms of the rank state for the number of jobs created by foreign direct investment from China over the last several years. That’s huge in terms of helping our economy grow. Isn’t that the kind of message we want to reinforce with people? And we build great relationships with in particular with some parts of China where we have sister state relationships that I think we have more and more opportunity.

  密歇根州本身可以成为一个例证。在我成为州长之前密歇根并没有与中国有太多的往来。如今八年以后就来自中国的直接投资创造的就业岗位数量而言我们是全美排行第三的州。这对于帮助我们的经济发展而言意义重大。这不正是我们想要给人们传递与强调的讯息吗?在中国特别是一些与我们建立姐妹城市关系的地方我们将有越来越多的合作机会。

  〖歌唱祖国〗是我父亲王莘作词作曲的。我就来讲讲它诞生的过程。

  1949年时任天津乐曲工作团团长的父亲参加了开国大典在观礼台上很激动因为经过这么多年的努力中华人民共与国终于诞生了。当他看到游行队伍喊着口号通过天安门广场前时不禁想到假如大伙儿能唱着一首歌通过天安门广场该有多好。于是他下定确定要创作这样一首歌。

  从那开始他每隔两三天就要写一首一共写了100多首其中正式发表的有6首主要发表在〖天津日报〗的“天津歌声”栏目上。可是发表以后没人唱。他说当年在晋察冀边区那么艰苦没有报纸也没有电台那时写的歌群众都能传唱现在这么好的条件不唱那可能就是没写好。于是他继续地努力写。

  一年过去了他很苦恼没有写出满意的歌来。正好天津乐曲工作团需要购置乐器他听说北京西四牌楼附近有一家当铺里面有一些旧乐器于是到了北京把他能挑的乐器都挑了。挑完以后他跟老板要了一根麻绳把乐器一件一件拴起来当时那种狼狈相可想而知:两肩各背一支长号两手提着圆号剩下的小号、长笛、黑管、双簧管都拴在一起挂在脖子上。就这样他从西四牌楼往火车站走。

  当天是9月14日他忽然看到五星红旗在秋风里飘扬小朋友正在准备国庆唱歌于是随口哼出一句词曲:五星红旗迎风飘扬胜利歌声多么响亮。歌唱我们亲爱的祖国从今走向繁荣富强。他觉得还不够劲儿又提高了一些声调:歌唱我们亲爱的祖国从今走向繁荣富强。〖歌唱祖国〗的头几句歌词就这么创作出来了。因为赶火车没时间记下来为了避免忘记他就在路上不断地重复一遍一遍地唱。就在重复唱歌过程中他发现被自我的歌打动哭了。他说当时他就感觉民众肯定会喜欢上这首歌。上了火车后父亲把前面几句赶紧记录下来看着火车窗外的景物他又不禁唱出“越过高山越过平原跨过奔腾的黄河长江”这些歌词未必能在办公桌上写出来。

  回到家后父亲把歌谱完整地誊写下来。第二天早晨兴冲冲地送到了报社。他当时就想离国庆节还有15天希望能够传唱。结果过了没两天就被退稿了上面写着国庆稿挤暂不录用。他找到一位老朋友问了情况朋友说你辛辛苦苦写了一首外国歌因为当时的歌曲多是五声音阶的忽然出来一个别的调儿别人就感觉不像中国歌。

  父亲深受他的老师冼星海先生的影响不觉得这首歌有什么问题。于是自我组织了音工团的工作人员到工厂、农村、码头、学校去教唱。功夫不负有心人这首歌很快就在民众中传唱开了。

  一天父亲接到从北京打来的电话时任中国乐曲家协会秘书长孙慎同志问他有首叫〖歌唱祖国〗的歌曲在群众中广为流传据说是从天津传出来的你是天津音协主席请帮忙查一查这首歌是谁写的请把词曲快寄来中央文化部急要。父亲笑了踏破铁鞋无觅处得来全不费工夫。太巧了你算找对了———那首歌词曲作者正是我。

  整整一年后的1951年9月15日〖歌唱祖国〗在〖人民日报〗上发表从那天开始一直到今天这首歌传遍全国甚至世界。在做〖鲁豫有约〗时我说〖歌唱祖国〗应该是流传最广、传播最远的一首歌。主持人问我有根据吗?我说〖歌唱祖国〗在2008年北京奥运会开幕式上演唱当时直接或者间接观看北京奥运会开幕式得有多少人?“嫦娥一号”从38万公里外的太空向地球上传回这首歌是不是算传播最远的?

  在今天看这首歌已经普遍传唱但在当时这首歌真的是经历了一些波折。

  (王斌系王莘之子)

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